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In my haste to find a transparent limiter & finish the CD...trying desperately to make it sound a little louder without changing any sonic character...I sort of got into it (in this BBS) with Aleksey, without fully examining the program; & hence drawing (un-researched) assumptions & conclusions.


Sorry ol' pal.

Maybe you're the man, after all.

Today, I discovered Clip Mode.

Wow, man!  I set Elephant up in Clip Mode & 4X Oversampling across the stereo bus of one of my best projects; & bounced.  Then, I disabled Elephant & bounced again (allowing the file to hard clip.) Then I brought them both into a new project & performed a null test.

The two files nulled perfectly except for the clipped regions (& all you could hear during those regions was the scratchy sound of the clipping & some faint music in the unprocessed file...of course.)

After the null test I listened to them both again; & the Elephant processed file sounded superior at those points.

But now (& please don't think I'm crazy for asking this, but...)...even tho these files nulled perfectly (save for the clipped regions)...the Elephant processed file sounded "thinner"....I swear to god.

I know that's not possible, since they nulled, but I swear I heard it.

Anybody have any answers on this phenomenon, or am I hearing things?



BTW - I am happy I discovered this method; & I'm sure it will serve me well here in the mastering phase; & I'm sure I can now use the soft-clipped files...I'm just wondering why they sound different, despite nulling.

To be sure you are not hearing things, simply disable oversampling and perform the same test.


Thanks...I'll do just that & report back.


I just purchased & authorized version 2.5; & there seems to be a graphic problem w/ the interface.  The bottom is cut off (everything below Dithering & Noise-Shape) I.e., I cant see DC Filter & DC Fl Type.

What's going on with that...never happened in v2.4...I had the full view of the interface.

Please help me fix...thanks,


Dell Dimension 8250 / Windows XP

Intel 850E Motherboard/Chipset

Intel P4 2.53GHz CPU (512 KB L2 Cache, 533 MHz FSB)

1024 MB PC1066 RDRAM

Ultra 60GB Primary HD / Single Volume (OS, Apps, Files/Folders.)

Maxtor DiamondMax 9+ 80GB Secondary HD / Single Volume (Audio Data only)

nVidia 64MB GEFORCE4 MX420 AGP

Echo Audio Layla 24/96 PCI Audio Interface

Universal Audio UAD-1 DSP Powered Plug-In System

KRK Rockit RP-8 Studio Reference Monitors



WaveLab 5

This can be easily resolved - simply run VST adapter, then press

'Next', then press the 'Reset all' button and then check the 're-scan

existing plugins' checkbox.  Then press Next and adapter will re-read

the plug-in information, including window size.

Sorry...but that didn't work.


Wait...that was scary...didn't pick up on the reset & rescan...went back & did it again; & lost all my Vst's in SONAR.  Ran the Vst Config Wizard from inside the program 3 times (from within the SONAR Plug-In Manager), with no luck.  Ran it the next time from the Start > Programs menu; & it worked.  Something wrong with my plug-in manager.  Have all the Vst's back, tho; & Elephant's interface is now the correct size.



You are welcome!
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