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Your advice please,

I use Cubase sx2 and record at 24bit.

I use Elephant as my mastering limiter plugin.

I export my 24bit wave file down to mp3 in sx2 thru elephant.

Should I use the dithering in elephant to say 16bit first?

It seems to sound fine from 24bit direct to mp3 thru elephant.

I would be grateful for any advice and settings for elephant to go from 24bit wave to mp3.

Any advice please would be gratefully recieved.

Allan


To answer your question precisely one should know how Cubase performs MP3 export - whether it uses audio file's bit depth or some additional bit depth conversion step to bring it to 16 bits for example.  If it is the latter I doubt any dithering setting in Elephant will be meaningful.  On the other hand, if no 'hidden' bit depth conversion happens you may simply leave it at 24-bit resolution.  MP3 format is a compressed format and many weird things happen when you export your audio there.  So, it's hard to tell which setting is desired.

I may suggest you to use a lower Out gain setting (below -0.5 dB), expecially on heavily-compressed audio material.  This may help to avoid clipping on MP3 playback.


Aleksey Vaneev: To answer your question precisely one should know how Cubase performs MP3 export - whether it uses audio file's bit depth or some additional bit depth conversion step to bring it to 16 bits for example.  If it is the latter I doubt any dithering setting in Elephant will be meaningful.  On the other hand, if no 'hidden' bit depth conversion happens you may simply leave it at 24-bit resolution.  MP3 format is a compressed format and many weird things happen when you export your audio there.  So, it's hard to tell which setting is desired.

Aleksey Vaneev: I may suggest you to use a lower Out gain setting (below -0.5 dB), expecially on heavily-compressed audio material.  This may help to avoid clipping on MP3 playback.

Thank you for your info Aleksey much appreciated.

Also thank you for your plugins: Elephant and Warmifier (bought) great plugins.

Allan.


You are welcome!

If you are using SX to mix, you will be better off IMHO exporting the mix to a file with the same bit depth & sample rate.

Then re import this for the final mastering, and only then drop to 16 bits.

I do not know if MP3 actually accepts a 24 bit file without truncating it down to 16 bits.

Dolby Digital & DTS use their own internal dithering somehow, as 24 bit input always sounds better.

I have no idea at all if MP3 does this or not.

Fraunhofer or Lame?

Probably best to ask the people who wrote the thing?

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