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Aleksey,

I have used Soniformer for over 6 months and it is a wonderful plugin.  But i have been wondering why you have the 'snapping' mode?  Can the nodes only affect the bands they touch, or can the nodes affect frequencies other than the centers of the bands?

In other words, if 'snapping' is off, do the nodes affect the exact frequency locations they are at, or do they only work on the nearest band(s)?

The main reason I ask is that no matter how much I tune the threshold and other parameters (with 'snapping' on), there are sometimes still prominent peaks and dips in an FFT display, unless the threshold is low and the compression ratio is very high.  By that point, the audio is squeezed to death!

Thanks,

G~

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Since compressor bands take parameter values directly from the envelope, the values they take are obviously discrete since bands a placed on the spectral grid.  Snapping helps to specify exact values for each band.  However, I tend to perceive this more as an eye-candy than a necessity.

I'm not sure what kind of peaks and dips are you talking about - are these available in your signal and you want to tame them, but without success?


I guess what I am trying to say is that, if I want to compress a very specific frequency - say 345Hz, and not compress the adjacent frequencies, like 360Hz and 330Hz, would several closely placed nodes accomplish this? (this of course implies a very high Q).  Is there some overlapping or other technique that allows for 'tuning between the spectral bands,' or does the plugin average out the nodes/lines across each band and assign a single value for each frequency band (for the given parameter: threshold, attack, release, etc.)?  Would drawing more nodes that the actual number of bands be meaningful?

Thanks

G~

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Peaks and dips: occasionally, I want to compress a small frequency bump (based on a long average FFT) that is 'in between' the center of the bands, and it seems that soniformer has less of an effect than if the frequency bump is at or near the band center.  And eq is not always appropriate, since these bumps may be created by transient information, instead of more sustained energy. (I guess I could use transmodder for this purpose! - I will have to get it).

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Well, Soniformer is unsuitable at fixing narrow dips and notches - mainly because its band-splitting filters have -12 dB/oct slope.  Soniformer is simply unsuitable for your requirement - it is not designed to perform severe "surgical" adjustments.

Thank you Aleksey, that information is extremely helpful.

I just wanted to know how precise I could get with each band, and your quick answer clarified that.

I think Soniformer is great and use it on almost all my Mastering.  It does overall spectral balancing in a warm and dynamic manner, and almost always enhances a mix.

The Width feature is especially nice, and the Fluffy setting adds a dimensionality impossible to get with other multiband dynamic tools I have tried.

I am sure I can find other solutions to the rare occasions when I need to dynamically control a narrow bandwidth (probably TransModder, as this particular issue is usually based on a transient buildup, as opposed to a more constant level spectral bump, which would be fixable with eq).

Thanks again!

George Piazza - virtualaudio@aol.com

www.flymastering.com - Mastering, Mixing, Restoration

www.tombofmysteries.com - 'Supernatural Horror' = Music, Sound Design

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You are welcome!
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