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cymatics
on Jun 15, 2008, 2:04pm:
In a future release, would it be possible to import a spectrum capture from CurveEQ as a control envelope for Soniformer?
Or as another option, is it possible to incorporate a spectrum capture function in a future release of Soniformer?
Thanks for your consideration and your excellent plugs!
- Jon
Or as another option, is it possible to incorporate a spectrum capture function in a future release of Soniformer?
Thanks for your consideration and your excellent plugs!
- Jon
Aleksey Vaneev
on Jun 17, 2008, 10:00am:
I do not think it's really useful or possible to have this feature in Soniformer. Soniformer is a dynamics processors while "dynamics capture" is algoritmically complex thing to my understanding. I was already thinking about it from time to time, but I do not have a ready solution, and I doubt any 'universal' solution is possible here: too many variables should be considered.
cymatics
on Jun 17, 2008, 1:35pm:
I was not suggesting a 'dynamics capture', just a static 'spectrum capture'.
I thought it would be useful specifically in a mastering compression application to capture the spectrum of a song, then use that as Soniformer's threshold control envelope. Typically, I do this by monitoring the analyzer, then adding as many points as required to create a threshold control envelope that matches the song's spectrum. If Soniformer had a spectrum capture feature, that would streamline this process and make it more accurate.
Just a thought.
- Jon
I thought it would be useful specifically in a mastering compression application to capture the spectrum of a song, then use that as Soniformer's threshold control envelope. Typically, I do this by monitoring the analyzer, then adding as many points as required to create a threshold control envelope that matches the song's spectrum. If Soniformer had a spectrum capture feature, that would streamline this process and make it more accurate.
Just a thought.
- Jon
Aleksey Vaneev
on Jun 19, 2008, 10:39pm:
OK, I'll consider this option.
virtualaudio
on Jun 22, 2008, 6:31am:
A static spectrum capture for threshold seems like a great idea to me!
Soniformer took me a little while to get used to, but the more I work with it, the better it sounds. At first, I thought it was 'too good to be true and must have phasing issues' or some other flaw, but I can't detect anything nasty about it. I am surprised that it is not mentioned more often in mastering forums like GearSlutz; though Elephant and PolySquasher are (I love Elephant; I don't have Polysquasher).
By the way, Aleksey, you are a genius and I love every plug in I have from you!
I am happy to see highly regarded Mastering Engineers such as Bob Katz mention your products; you deserve it.
Soniformer took me a little while to get used to, but the more I work with it, the better it sounds. At first, I thought it was 'too good to be true and must have phasing issues' or some other flaw, but I can't detect anything nasty about it. I am surprised that it is not mentioned more often in mastering forums like GearSlutz; though Elephant and PolySquasher are (I love Elephant; I don't have Polysquasher).
By the way, Aleksey, you are a genius and I love every plug in I have from you!
I am happy to see highly regarded Mastering Engineers such as Bob Katz mention your products; you deserve it.
Aleksey Vaneev
on Jun 22, 2008, 10:05am:
Thanks for your support!
EmptyPlanet
on Dec 9, 2009, 1:46am, edited 1 time(s), last modified on Dec 9, 2009, 1:47am:
Yes, this is the idea behind DSM -- http://www.gearslutz.com/board/new-product-alert/188044-paul-frindle-new-company-new-plugin.html and http://www.proaudiodsp.com -- that has kind of taking the plugin world by storm.
If you implemented this curve capture and made it seemless, you would be the ONLY competition for that plugin. When I first heard of DSM, my first thought was of Soniformer.
Cheers to all.
If you implemented this curve capture and made it seemless, you would be the ONLY competition for that plugin. When I first heard of DSM, my first thought was of Soniformer.
Cheers to all.
leddy
on Dec 9, 2009, 8:51pm, edited 1 time(s), last modified on Dec 9, 2009, 8:51pm:
I was thinking the same things when I asked this a few weeks ago.
I have a hard time imagining how it would work as a plug-in though. Something like that might need to be a stand-alone.
I have a hard time imagining how it would work as a plug-in though. Something like that might need to be a stand-alone.
virtualaudio
on Dec 9, 2009, 9:23pm:
Again, a 'spectrum capture' feature that can snapshot an average of the processed file's spectral energy and apply this curve to the threshold parameter would be a major time saver.
And a spectrum capture feature that could be stored and transferred to the threshold for a different file to be processed would allow a certain amount of dynamic/spectral averaging across files.
I see this as mainly useful for setting the threshold; I don't know how much use it would have for other parameters.
And a spectrum capture feature that could be stored and transferred to the threshold for a different file to be processed would allow a certain amount of dynamic/spectral averaging across files.
I see this as mainly useful for setting the threshold; I don't know how much use it would have for other parameters.
Aleksey Vaneev
on Dec 10, 2009, 1:56pm:
Thanks for the DSM link - but it's hard to say what it does from the description. Spectrum envelope capture is another thing, of course.
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