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As the noise reduction plug works so well - what about adding in a DeClicker as well?

Would this be even feasible at all - and if it could have the DeClick and DeCrackle, then it would be very valuable indeed.

ReduNoise makes the Waves DeNoiser sound like a chirpy toy by comparison, it really does.

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I was not planning to implement these tools as I do not have a clue how they are working and what kind of analysis is performed to decide whether click happened or not.  Probably I can get to implementing these tools later.  Thanks for your interest!

If you're gettin into the click and crackle business Aleksey here's my top shelf plugin to beat, ClickFix.  It's a native (not DX or VST) plugin for Adobe Audition that I've had great success with in my admittedly short vinyl restoration career.

http://jdklein.bizland.com/clickfix/

It beats all of the declickers and decracklers I have (I don't do Waves so I don't know about that one).  The secret here for me is ClickFix ability to give statistical feedback regarding the characteristics of the clicks and then you can fine tune it in a short period of time to remove everything without the artifacts that you sometimes get using other methods...

Pretty outrageous claims, yes ?  ClickFix is the one to beat for vinyl LPs.

But there is a whole world out there of shellac, 45's, 78's, cylinders that require needle diameter matches, speed compensation, EQ curves, cleaning solutions, vacuums to prepare the media for a clean transfer, followed by dry carbon brushes when the vinyl hits the turntable to kill static and dust - that gets rid of a lot of noise too.  There's also a lot of good info on this at Diamond Cut and restoration forums and sites.

Then there's the idea of how a click could look somewhat musical to a declick algorithm in forward motion but if the wave is reversed the click can be detected easier and removed.  Adobe Audition lets me reverse a wave pretty easily for this kind of thing.  Having a sample accurate editor is mandatory for this kind of thing simce clicks can be 10 samples wide and sometimes you want to see what's on either side of it so you can get an idea of how wide (in samples) the replacement aglorithm should look.  Like I said - I'm still learnin so that's the kind of stuff I did to characterize the clicks on an album so I wouldn't have to go thru one-by-one...hehe there's many thousands of clicks to remove per song usually.

Once I get thru all of the clicks and down to the actual surface noise of the needle rubbing the groove then Redunoise can be brought in to get rid of that noise rather effectively (my Top Shelf broadband denoiser)!

Of course there's other good reasons to declick & decrackle besides vinyl - like mic and general cable noise pops & clicks you get in live recordings (at least mine have it)...

Good topic Neil, I see you're into restoration too - my 2cents (so far-mostly a beginner in [good] restoration)


Noise from live recordings is always going to be there - chances are so high that there will be a dodgy lead somewhere in the stage setup that you just do not spot on the night.

I guess it is one of the reasons that when albums are recorded live, there are usually stacks of shows recorded, and the best performances are polished for release.

Restoration is a seriously fine art.  So easy to go overboard, and I have often found that 2 passes with conservative settings will often produce a better result than one "up to the line" option - far fewer artifacts and a lot less warble.

Now - all I need is a good native option for clicks - not the Waves thing, as that is not really that efficient.

And the one with Nuendo is dreadful - almost unusable.

Aleksey?????

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I'm unable to implement such processor in the nearest future.  But I will keep this in the plans.
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