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I have recently came up with a new advanced algorithm for mastering compression and called PC VST plug-in based on it Sonic Finalizer.  It is surely something new for DAW world since I have never seen anything like that.  It is in Alpha stage now, so it might be buggy both in code and in algorithm.

You can download install exec here: http://www.voxengo.com/VoxengoSonicFinalizerVST_10a_setup.exe

Actually, I just wanted to hear EVERYTHING you think about it.

I am actually not convinced about its usability, so I decided that it will be better to hear opinions, and only if users feel it is usable, release it.  Price is also a question, but it won't go higher than CurveEQ.

This plug-in is an huge CPU eater due to algorithm's requirements.

I also don't want to go much deeper in algo explanations (I just want to be slightly first than others).

This alpha version works only for 45 seconds in a row.  When it stops processing, you need to press stop and play again in the host.

For me, this mastering compressor is a nice thing for live and broadcasting situations since it is a nearly zero-latency plug-in.



Installed it but not working, no change in sound at all using Wavelab 4

Ok got it working, seems not to work with mono files though.

Ah, yes, sorry...  Have not included mono support in this alpha.

Hmmm...  I checked this plug out briefly last night.  My studio is temporarily in storage as I'm in the middle of a move, but I was able to try it out on an old Nuendo project while monitoring through some Sony headphones...

I dove in and started turning knobs to get a feel for what was going on.  My initial reaction was -- I felt it to be too extreme...  But once I got more familair with the plug, and attempted dialing in with a more subtle approach, I started getting some pretty good results.  Matter-o-fact, I think I really liked it, although I was only able to spend twenty minutes or so...

But it wasn't particularly intuitive from a user perpective (didn't find any readme's or documentation on functionality.) I'd be curious to hear what kind of processing is going on in the background (at a high level, so as not to give any secrets!)...  I think that would help in asessing its usefulness relative to other tool available.

Anyway -- no solid critiquing or opinions as of yet, I need more time with it...  But in a nutshell:

Initially I was a bit turned off...  But after 5 minutes I was kinda rocking out!

Actually, a couple questions:

*Obviously a multiband compressor, with standard controls for high and low band adjustment...  How exactly do these controls interact with the mid-bands?  Or is it a two-band compressor with both bands overlapping into the midrange?

*Does pushing the gains at any particular stage add some sort of saturation?  Hard to tell for sure through a crappy headphone amp...

*Overall, the ratio and threshold controls appear to influence the tone of the plug much in a much more obvious manner than similar controls on most "normal" compressors, multi or singal band...  Can you explain if there is something else going on here?  Or just the nature of your algorithm?

Controls appear to be pretty sensitive!

Thanks for comments, T-D@qq

Yes, Sonic Finalizer IS a multiband compressor.  However it contains a HUGE number of bands.  That is why the best way to control it is to use only two controls - for low and high ends.  Mid range takes some interpolated value.

On very extreme settings Sonic Finalizer can create much IMD (intermodulation distortion) which sounds much like a soft saturation.  This in my opition is not anything bad.

Since that was an alpha release, I thought it will be OK not to put any docs.  Actually, I wanted to hear UNBIASED opinions.  And I have got several.  The good thing is that nobody said Sonic Finalizer sounds bad.  Many actually said it sounds GOOD, however rather hard to control its sound for the first time.

My idea behind Sonic Finalizer was to create a tool that STRAIGHTENS frequency response, thus allowing to reveal details that are hidden by too loud frequencies.  Its sideproduct was expansion that can be applied to lower frequencies adding dimension to the sound.  So, indeed this plug-in IS a sonic finalizer.  The only thing it requires is a good sounding limiter, but this is planned for the future.

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