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I think some good metering would really help with these plugins especially with tapebuss.

Thanks for the tip!

I agree.  I was just looking over on the Samplitude website trying to see what their new Analog Modelling compressor/transient designer/tape saturator looked like.  They all have excellent visual cues which will probably make them that much easier to tune.  For example, the tape plugin has a simple meter from -10 to +6 (or so...) for the "on tape" level.  That makes it easy to know when you are driving the tape hot, and not just raising the gain.  Something similar on tapebus would be great, but I don't know if metering would be useful on the chorus or delay.  In fact, such a level meter may be useful on Warmifier too, or at least a Clip LED.

I actually prefer the lack of visual aid in some of Aleksey's plugins.  Not getting hung up on seeing input vs. output at what knee charted over some spectral range in Crunchessor and simply listening intently seems to do it for me.  I'm happier to get more instances of a plugin per cycle than eye candy.  I would like to see a bypass button, though, to make comparison with the original a little easier.  But sonically, what more could you ask for?


If there is to be metering, K-system would be far more preferable to standard PPM.

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Actually, I would like a simple meter plugin with selectable ranges that goes down really low with a nice big bar graph for visuals.  The Nuendo meter stops at -45db and there are rare times when you need to get lower than that.

So far, I haven't found any meter that goes down low enough.  One of my on-going projects has a need for metering down to -100db.  I am doing it by ear at the moment but some visual clues would really help, especially when I am really dancing on my hearing threshold.

Mark


Mark.

If you have RME hardware, you can set DigiCheck to go down as low as you need.

If not, then it is a problem - I don't trust Nuendo's meters anyway, or any other digital PPM.

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Do you think an automatic meter will do it for you?  I.e. this meter will rescale itself according to the incoming levels.

Aleksey - I think the scale should remain fixed but different scales should be selectable.

Doing some thinking about it right now, my *ideal* meter plugin would be:

1.  Large scale bar graph selectable for horizontal or vertical and remembered setting.

2.  Full range for example, -120 to +20.

3.  Each db integer has its own block on the bar graph and each block is separated from the other by a blank line so you can count the graduations between scale markings.

4.  Peak hold with selectable hold times including infinite.  Also peak hold line should be drawn a different colour than in the meter - white for example.

5.  RMS metering.

6.  Two clip level indicators with selectable levels.

7.  Selectable meter ranges with the physical scale of the meter always being sized up to fill the GUI.  Suggest ranges starting from -120 and going up in 10db increments.

8.  Ability to switch off continuous meter and just show peak and rms values.

9.  Selectable rise and slope times for the meter.

10.  User selectable three band colour selection with adjustable cross-over points for the meter.

11.  A mono button on multichannel metering.

12.  Button to reset peak and rms.

13.  Multichannel compatibility.

14.  An A/B switch (as in your fx plugins) to switch between two different settings (and have those settings saved as defaults).

There is a lot there for ideas but if that was all put together and given the Voxengo treatment, I'd be delighted!  Surely, given the lack of full range metering out there, there would be a market for this product.  Especially, if the K system is implemented.

Anyone have any further ideas?  Thanks for listening Aleksey!

Mark


Thanks for the ideas, that can be useful when I get to implementing metering later.
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